Curse

Zeph · Sep 27, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36

/no signed

Enough with the damn hero bashing already. *sigh*

Necris · Sep 27, 2007, 04:07 PM // 16:07

To the original poster:

No.

TheRaven · Sep 27, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59

I didn't particularly like the addition of heroes either, but they're here to stay. They make a lot of areas wayy easier than they should be and personally I'd rather pug, but most people enjoy having heroes and they can be very convenient so I can't vote to remove them.

However, I enjoyed reading your post. Nice to find someone who can write.

Mordakai · Sep 27, 2007, 05:16 PM // 17:16

One problem with your post is that Prince Rurik doesn't take a slot.

So, no, adding heros doesn't force Prince Rurik out.

But, one thing this post did convince me was to add a petition to bring back undead Prince Rurik in GW2.... with a Icy Flame Sword natch.

Dougal Kronik · Sep 27, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51

/not signed

Still waiting for the day when I can use 7 Heros.

Deadlyjunk · Sep 27, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

/not signed

Still waiting for the day when I can use 7 Heros.

Never going to happen. Didn't you see; the thread got killed. Please don't start it again. The only word for seven heroes is, as I put it yesterday and got flamed for, NO.

The end.

Div · Sep 27, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie Bane

Ah, Alesia, lest you forget, you accompanied me on many of my adventures. Remember when I had to bring two run skills just to be able to get far enough ahead of you, just to aggro the groups first? You and your enthusiasm! You and your zest for Restore Life while our companions fell! You and your desire to wand every monster to death from Ascalon to Droknor's Forge while standing half an aggro bubble in front of the fellows with more substantial armor than tattoos and clothes. I chalked up your...quirks to simple youthful exuberance.

Then I brought some other monks along. These folks would spam heal party as a solution to one player taking damage. Warriors with a full bar of heal skills abounded at every turn. I was lucky enough to be taken under the wing of a guild who had noticed these same things and we resolved to always help each other whenever we could, and to never, ever suck.

Lo, the cruel gods of work, school, and relationships, not to mention basic human fatigue endurance, conspired to ensure that the small band of skilled players I called my friends were not always around, and I wept. But wait! We can band together with other groups of like minded people, and continue our goal of not sucking. But no, my dream was stillborn and some huge egos, along with an alliance chat full of racist jokes and trade spam, forced us to once again go it alone.

So to recap, we have players with no skill and bad skills, henchmen with weak AI and lame skillsets, and armies of players who think that Healer's Boon and Divine Boon shall be run in tandem.

Then, in a rare stroke of wisdom, we were given Heroes. Now, the only excuse for them being lousy was our own inherent suck factor. No more of Orion's firestorm parties. No more Alesia spamming Healing Breeze around groups of Mesmers. I can decide that I want to run a ZB monk with a Grenth's Balance Warrior and as soon as I can place the skills, it is done. It pains me to say it, but Necro Heroes are better MM's than at least 98% of human MMs, myself included. The warrior AI leaves something to be desired, but in terms of sheer damage output, they leave Healing Hands wammos right where they belong, back in AED 1, spamming LFG and blind inviting the whole town.

My last point is this. Despite losing drops, a percentage of money and having to pay to outfit them, players would rather bring heroes than PUG. Players would rather risk a firestorm party than risk the 95% chance that this player or players will be bad. I do not want to waste my two hours a day trying to help a player who doesn't know he needs help and will insult me for doing so.

Rurik, you are very patient to listen to me and my ramblings. Or maybe it's because you are dead. I distinctly remember killing you at least 4 times. Okay, there was the fifth time when you ran ahead and I chose to not heal you.

Very nice story. Post more in lyssa's fiction

Isileth · Sep 27, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadlyjunk

Never going to happen. Didn't you see; the thread got killed. Please don't start it again. The only word for seven heroes is, as I put it yesterday and got flamed for, NO.

The end.

It was closed by a GWG moderator. They have no connection with Anet.

Just because they closed the thread doesnt mean anything.

Wrath of m0o · Sep 27, 2007, 07:01 PM // 19:01

not singed
I love my Hero's
8 characters with 25 Hero's give me 400 more storage spaces to store my uber items.
Plus my Hero's have no problems fighting with a 60% DP, they never quit and theyre always ready to help me work on the title I am currently working on.

Vinraith · Sep 27, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadlyjunk

Never going to happen. Didn't you see; the thread got killed. Please don't start it again. The only word for seven heroes is, as I put it yesterday and got flamed for, NO.

The end.

Sooner or later the game's going to be unplayable without them, no matter what you and your fellow "my gameplay is more important than your gameplay" compatriots say about it. I find it hard to believe Anet doesn't know that, no matter what their public line is at the moment. Time will tell, you won't.

OI-812 · Sep 27, 2007, 07:20 PM // 19:20

OP: DIAF. /notsigned.

Heroes are a GOOD thing for PvE. You want camaraderie and teamwork, go to serious PvP, where it really matters.

Deadlyjunk · Sep 27, 2007, 08:31 PM // 20:31

You know what, let's all just play solo while we're at it. Online games are really fun when you don't actually play with anybody online. And yes, I'm telling you how to play the game. Go play Zelda if you wanna RPG alone, keep, guild wars as a team game, tyvm.

Isileth · Sep 27, 2007, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Deadly no one is making you play solo. You are free to play with teams.

Mohnzh · Sep 27, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36

When will it be safe to assume that anyone starting a 7hero or 0hero thread is being sarcastic? The horse is no longer recognizable, the beating has been overdone.

Let's keep the joke threads in Off-topic and the Absurd =)

Vinraith · Sep 27, 2007, 08:37 PM // 20:37

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. And yes, I'm telling you how to play the game.

We know you are, it's why we have no interest in playing with you. It's also why we'll continue to press for 7 heroes, so that we can always be assured we'll never have to play with you or anyone like you. Heroes don't discourage PUGing, players that think their enjoyment of the game is more important than mine do. Get rid of them and maybe you'll see a better social environment in the game.

..L.. · Sep 27, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Haha, what makes you think that people who are already running h/h team would team up if heroes would be removed? That's just 3 henchies more.
Still, 1 player + 7 henchies > most PUGs

Haha, point out where I inclined that they would, I said I would prefer it that way. Though it probally wouldnt happen.

Still, 1 player + 7 henchies > most PUGs
Still, 1 player + 7 henchies = more boring then oblivion.

dark_prince2023 · Sep 27, 2007, 09:04 PM // 21:04

/signed I miss grouping

..L.. · Sep 27, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isileth

Deadly no one is making you play solo. You are free to play with teams.

Try getting a team by spamming LFG For (insert quest/mission here) and see how long it takes to get a full party, I did it for 1 hour to get a party for warband of brothers and in the end noone even replied, the entire district was filled with people but none of them even said a word.

So to rephrase your line: Noone is making you play solo. You are free to play with teams if you can ever find one in the coming 1,5 years.

dark_prince2023 · Sep 27, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

/not signed because the world is to big and the player base in some areas is too small.

..L.. · Sep 27, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinraith

We know you are, it's why we have no interest in playing with you. It's also why we'll continue to press for 7 heroes, so that we can always be assured we'll never have to play with you or anyone like you. Heroes don't discourage PUGing, players that think their enjoyment of the game is more important than mine do. Get rid of them and maybe you'll see a better social environment in the game.

Dont pretend to be talking for a entire base of people and keep it to your personal oppionion, I doubt anyone wouldnt want to pug with him, I doubt anyone would want to pug with your elitist morals.